Interview: Analyst at Pickering Energy Partners
>> we return to today’s top story, hurricane katrina and its impact on crude prices. the concerns about oil supply persist and in response, president bush has said he could tap the strategic petroleum reserve to help combat hurricane-induced oil shortages. however, our next guest says the market may not need it. here to explain is an analyst at pickering energy partners. he joins us from houston, texas. welcome, david.
>> thoompings for having me.
>> once you find out the damage assessment you’ll obviously have to find out what needs to be fixed, how bad the damage is what are you telling your clients at this point, wait and see?
>> yeah. unfortunately that’s not a great answer for an energy analyst, but at this point, it’s a spectator sport. everyone everyone is watching tv, trying to figure out what’s going on. and the companies are just now starting to send out reconnaissance plane, either helicopters or fixed wing aircraft. but the majority of the companies won’t get information out until tornl afternoon sometime. so between now and then, it’s frustratingly long waiting game.
>> from a financial point of view, david, how will this impact gas and oil produce sners
>> right. the issue is commodity prices, this is going to elevate commodity prices like it did today. the issue is how much production impact is there? the gulf of mexico is responsible for 25% of u.s. production, both crude oil and natural gasms and that’s meaningful in a market that is tight in certain areas, and the commodity markets are jittery to these types of supply disruptions. who wirnings it’s really the energy strystri and who lose, it’s the consumers who are going to pay more to heat their homes and drive their cars.
>> word came today, david that the president is considering tapping the strategic petroleum reserve to help producers. you mentioned hurricane ivan. back then only 1 million barrels were released from the s.b.r.
>> i think it’s political cover. the only thing wra -- washington can do is say we have the reserves if needed. a year ago, oil inventories were scraping the bottom of the barrel. we were at minimum operating levels. so certain refineries needed oil, but it was only 1.5 million barrels or so that was needed from the reserve. it was a small amount. today we have 55 million barrels over the inventory levels with hurricane ivan. from we’re amply supplied. the real tightness comes from the product inventories. we don’t have that much gasoline. we’re 8 million barrels over historical minimum levels. and what we worry most about is refineries are going to be offline because of major flooding or significant and sustainable widespread power outages so that gasoline demand is still there, but gulf of mexico production is off because of refinery outages. you have more pressure on refined product inventories an the strategic petroleum reserves are all oil. that won’t help.
>> where do we go from here?
>> good question. i hate to put a number on it. if i could tell you why crude is at $67 or $68, i would feel more comfortable telling you where it’s going from here. if we wake up tomorrow or wednesday or thursday morning and find out there is sustainable production damage, commodity prices are going higher than they are today.
>> all right. thank you very much. david pursell, thank you for joining us, david.
>> kpmg, settling with federal investigators today. after the break, we will have the story. we continue our coverage with hurricane katrina, now a category one storm. that all comes up. next.
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>> here’s the close for oil. prices came off the highs after word president bush is considering tapping into the strategic petroleum reserve to help oil producers and refiners hobbled by the hurricane. let’s get you on the closing numbers. the dow jones industrial average, up 0.6%. s&p 500 index up 0.6% to 1212. and nasdaq up 078% to 2137. now back to the latest on energy prices. after hurricane katrina slammed into the gulf this morning, the storm packed winds of up to 150 miles an hour. we’ve already seen crude oil futures surge above the never-before-seen price of $70 a barrel. su keenan here with the latest.
>> $70.80 was the intraday high, actually achieved during electronic trading that’s 57% gain, the biggest one-day gain in 2 1/2 years. of course, a lot of the prices came off the highs. ivan caused future prices to soar 22% in the following month. katrina began―hit the mainland at daybreak and began losing stream from there. while it missed new orleans, the concern for oil trade serts effect of the fiercest storm to strike the gulf since 1969 would have on offshore platforms. tom o’connor listed to updates throughout the day and said key information won’t be known until tomorrow at the earliest.
>> when the workers will be on the r rigs and when crude oil will be back imported into the united states.
>> easterlyier, katrina caused record prices across the board. let’s take a look. natural gas was the biggest commodity mover at one point, up 23%, and in the session, up more than 10 prs. the contracts are expiring. the nymex invoked the act of god clause, saying a lot of the sup pliers don’t have to deliver on the current contract because of the storm and that caused prices to skyrocket. prices have more than doubled in the past year. major money managers are closely focused on what these new price levels could mean.
>> i do think we’re going to see higher oil prices from here on in. demand simply outstripped supply and we’re not producing, or finding enough oil to really take care of our needs at this point in time.
>> meanwhile, the latest word from louisiana port, the biggest facility in the gulf, is that the spokesman says they can’t say when operations will resume. on the offshore oil port and some staff may return tomorrow. it is the very question of long-term damage that would drive prices heeger from here.
>> if we have long-term damage, $80 could be optimistic. at this point, you know, we have to take it $1 or $2 at a time, $5 at a time. you know, i don’t want to start predicting $100 oil, but if we’ve had severe damage, particularly if we’ve had damage to any of the refineries, that’s going to take a while to fix, then you can pick almost any number and add it to what we’ve seen here.
>> $67.20, the closing price for oil, up roughly 55% year to date.
>> all right, thank you very much. hurricane katrina is adding to concerns high energy prices will slow the u.s. economy. peter cook is in our washington bureau with that. peter?
>> derek, even before hurricane katrina rolled on shore, some economists say they were seeing signs energy prices were finally forcing u.s. consumers to cut back their spending. now the question is could the economy take an even bigger hit because of this storm?
>> 46.54. i’ve never parade that much for gas.
>> filling her nissan s.u.v., patrice says rising fuel prices have already forced her to change her spending habits and limit her driving now she’s considering even more drastic actions. ‘
>> i’m hoping that something will change very soon or my vehicle is going to be parked for a long time.
>> bening’s comments bolster the view from some economists that high energy prices are finally slowing americans’ spending.
>> prices at these levels higher would take down growth next year. noy the arrival of hurricane katrina and its effect on energy prices could reduce growth even further err.
>> we were very optimistic going into the third quarter that growth rebounded to the second quarter to something closer to 4. you can take 0.2% off of that. and for katrina, you can probably take another 0.2%. so we’re going to be growing it close to the 3.5%, 3.6% this quarter.
>> wal-mart said high gasoline price wars major factor, come pyring its second quarter profit to the lowest in four years. still, not everyone is convinced consumers are cutting back. recent job growth are boosting wages. consumer spending increased 0.5% a monte on average. and facing record prices at the pump, aun auto analyst points out 65% of all vehicle sales in the last few months were not car bus instead some form of truck or s.u.v.
>> we aren’t going to see changes in consumer behavior until gasoline is at $3 a gallon for six months.
>> concerns sparking a rise in treasuries today. checking right now the yield on the 10-year on this day. you can see the yield there, 4.17%. on the shorter end of the yield curve, 4.05%. and the dollar strengthened today across the board against the―actually, unchanged against the yen and largely unchanged against the euro. was higher on the day. up again slightly against the british pound. i’ll send it back to you right now in new york.
>> let’s go to the big board. bob bowdon has a wrap-up of the turnaround in the markets . stpwhoob
>> there was an interesting bracket between where stocks start and where they ended. if you look at an intraday chart of the s&p, where we began, you see on the left side of that chart, 1201. we tested that 1200 round number and never below 1200. it would have been the first time in seven weeks we would have been below 1200. but no, in fact, 1201 is the lowest we got. on the right side, we equal to the year to date performance. meaning in 2004 we closed at 1211.9. and today we closed at 1212.02. basically unchanged for the year. well, oil stocks were a big contributor to the upward movement. all up around 2%. maybe 0e.2% on the day. oil tanker stocks rallying even more than that, with teekay, general maritime and overseas shipholding up 3.5%. oil drillers made up some of the best stocks in the s&p 500, burlington up 2%. chesapeake energy up almost 3% on the day. and there was some interesting specific names in the oil-related action that has to do with katrina, hurricane katrina today. like offshore logistics. the company provides helicopter transportation services to the oil and gas industry. very specific business. but you can imagine how their business might be benefited by increased use of helicopters to go out and fix some of these rigs that might have been damaged. so that stock up of% on the day. 6% on the day. some stocks suffering because of katrina, such as insurance storks particularly those with exposure to louisiana and mississippi. you see allstate shares down about 2%. and hartford financial shares down about 1.5%. there were some retailers, though, that benefited. like home depot and lowe’s. they rallied, 1.8% and 2.25%. as hurricanes tend to spur sale zeals of things like electric genere tors and batteries and other emergency supplies. home depot, in fact, was the best performing stock in the dow jones industrial average at one point during the day. also a big rally for steal stocks on the day like nucorp, u.s. steal and a.k. steel that all had rallies on the day. back to you at the news desk.
>> merck’s request to delay a second trial over the painkiller vioxx was rejected by a new jersey judge today. the superior court judge turned down a motion to postpone by 45 days the trial set to begin in atlantic city on september 12. back on august 19, jurors in texas ordered merck to pay $253 million in damages to the family of robert ernst who died in 2001 after taking vioxx for eight months. merck has set aside $675 million to fight vioxx cases. as hurricane datrin that makes its way through the gulf, it forces companies to displace workers from oil rigs. we’ll find out what happens once the damage is assessed.